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Title: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: tjspiel on May 05, 2024, 10:39 PM
Tied up at the dock after a spirited sail on Friday, - with the boat as clean as it will be until October. :)

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Then again at a busier dock today while waiting for my wife and dog. I'm the one in the orange YWCA t-shirt on the left. There were maybe 4 other boats on their buoys on Friday, by the end of the day today it was over a dozen. About 55 more in the next few weeks.

Pretty calm today which suits my wife just fine.

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Two of the 1/2 dozen Catalina 22s that are on the lake are also in that second picture. I'm periodically jealous of the size of those boats but after helping rig one today (that one not pictured), there is something to be said for the simplicity of the Precisions.
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Quantico Frank on May 06, 2024, 06:02 AM
"Mad Baby" is looking good, Tom!
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: DBthal on May 06, 2024, 06:16 AM
Yes - your P-18 does look good!

And the weather is warm enough for you to wear shorts and a t-shirt.  8)
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: tjspiel on May 06, 2024, 08:21 AM
Quote from: DBthal on May 06, 2024, 06:16 AMYes - your P-18 does look good!

And the weather is warm enough for you to wear shorts and a t-shirt.  8)

About 70° which in a few weeks will feel chilly. I have one of those thermometers that can measure temperature by aiming it at something. Not all that accurate but in the ballpark usually. According to it the water temp at the surface was 57° and I was surprised it was that high since some days last week it didn't even reach 50.

Below the surface I'm sure it was much cooler. Didn't stop some people from swimming though.
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Brian N. on May 06, 2024, 01:29 PM
Good for you Tom - an early start. The weather here is just fair, but my wife and I have spent the last two weeks planting and cleaning up the back, front and side yards. Funny, we discovered an old paved walkway hidden for years (probably from 1940's) under layers of soil and ivy. Next project is opening the pool for Mother's day so the boat will have to wait. Enjoy!

BTW - New York State is phasing in a required boating safety license. I took the BoatUS course back in 2013 so I'm hoping it is still active. Anyone else have a required course and license?
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: tjspiel on May 06, 2024, 04:26 PM
Quote from: Brian N. on May 06, 2024, 01:29 PMBTW - New York State is phasing in a required boating safety license. I took the BoatUS course back in 2013 so I'm hoping it is still active. Anyone else have a required course and license?

No license requirements here. Trying to think of how enforcement would work since only the larger/busier lakes and rivers are patrolled at all.

I have been stopped twice by county sheriffs on the water, - both times in my 20s and both times because my step dad had a problem remembering to renew his boat registrations. :)
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: tjspiel on May 06, 2024, 04:34 PM
Quote from: tjspiel on May 06, 2024, 04:26 PM
Quote from: Brian N. on May 06, 2024, 01:29 PMBTW - New York State is phasing in a required boating safety license. I took the BoatUS course back in 2013 so I'm hoping it is still active. Anyone else have a required course and license?

No license requirements here. Trying to think of how enforcement would work since patrolling is kind of sporadic except on the larger/busier lakes and rivers. The city lakes where I do most of my sailing lately are not patrolled at all.

That said, I have been stopped twice by county sheriffs on the water, - both times in my 20s and both times because my step dad had a problem remembering to renew his boat registrations. :)
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Riggerdood on May 06, 2024, 09:36 PM
Awesome Tom! Here's to a great season.
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Brian N. on May 07, 2024, 08:53 PM
So - change in plans. My wife was called in to work so I figured its a good day to skip the yard work and get the boat together. First a good scrub to remove the grime that somehow made it under the winter cover. I did discover a few racoon paw prints, but not the mess as in previous years. Ran rigging and lines and new cotter pins and circle clips on all. Bringing the sails aboard plus all the electronics, binoculars, and a host of other items took about 2 hours to organize. Everything that needed grease, oil, lube, Sailkote was addressed.

I discovered that my emergency signal flares expired. I'm going to look into an electronic "flare". If anyone has a recommendation please post
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Riggerdood on May 07, 2024, 09:40 PM
Glad you're getting close to sailing Brian.

I seem to recall electronic flares being discussed here a while back, but a quick search didn't find it. Might have been the old forum, or maybe the FB group?
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Quantico Frank on May 08, 2024, 05:31 AM
Jealous, guys. Still waiting on bottom painting here, ugh....
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: DBthal on May 08, 2024, 07:34 AM
Here's some info on electronic flares:

https://panbo.com/sirius-signal-c-1002-c-1003-sos-distress-signal-testing-begins-future-bright/

https://panbo.com/acr-electronics-introduces-resqflare-and-distress-flag-as-uscg-certified-alternative-to-pyrotechnic-flares/

I've got the Sirius C-1003 and keep my expired flares in a bag marked "Expired" (Coast Guard preference).
Title: BIG Fan of electronic flares! :) . . . .
Post by: Charles Brennan on May 08, 2024, 10:09 AM
Had a love-hate relationship with flares as long as I've been boating.  Expensive, limited 3 year life-span, nearly impossible to dispose of properly and worse yet: I had TWO boats and it seemed one or the other ALWAYS had expired flares so I would be stealing from one boat to use on the other.  Tried to mitigate costs by transferring the flare kit between boats and THAT was a Major Drag as well.

Trying to Dispose of expired flares was the worst part.
For a while you could drop them off at any West Marine and then they discontinued that service.
THEN, for a while you could drop them off at Fire Stations, where they were happy to use them for training and demonstrations.  Then that too, stopped.
Reduced to using hazardous waste disposal stations, until they too deemed them too hazardous to just walk in off the street with.  Trying to blend in with 4th of July fireworks didn't work, either and barely escaped Officialdom by the skin of my teeth.

So over half a dozen years ago, I got one of the first ones (so new they were still waiting for a Coast Guard number and had to mail me a sticker) at a Boat Show at an introductory cost so low, I bought two of them. (After all, I had two boats to deal with.)
Never looked back.

Only downside is maintaining the two C-cell batteries.
I keep dielectric grease on the buttons and tabs and change the batteries every time we go on or off Daylight Savings Time.  And make no mistake, the Coasties DO take them apart and inspect the batteries, when doing a safety check.

Cannot recommend them enough.

One guy's opinion,
Charles Brennan
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Riggerdood on May 08, 2024, 10:43 PM
Quote from: Quantico Frank on May 08, 2024, 05:31 AMJealous, guys. Still waiting on bottom painting here, ugh....
Frank, just for "fun", go on the FB group and read Bill Pfund's almost 3 year tale of woe regarding getting his boat's bottom redone. Not for the faint of heart ...
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Quantico Frank on May 09, 2024, 09:09 AM
Quote from: Riggerdood on May 08, 2024, 10:43 PMFrank, just for "fun", go on the FB group and read Bill Pfund's almost 3 year tale of woe regarding getting his boat's bottom redone. Not for the faint of heart ...

Wow, what an ordeal! I'm pretty sure part of the problem I'm dealing with is also lack of/unreliable labor in my yard too. I called them yesterday, and they told me it's being power-washed and should be completed "in the next couple days."

Interesting things about Bill's post: 1) I asked my yard about a barrier coat, and they told me they don't do them because of all the decontamination requirements for using that paint right next to the Chesapeake Bay, and 2) my previous owner and I used to paint the bottom with that VC-17 paint, and the copper looks so cool when it's done; but unfortunately, since it's an ablative, all that beautiful copper washes off very quickly before it gets to your underlying color.
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: DBthal on May 09, 2024, 10:30 AM
I'm working through an ordeal bottom painting my 22' Sisu powerboat.

When it was built, I had the manufacturer barrier coat & bottom paint the boat when it was still on a crib at the plant. They didn't want to barrier coat saying it wasn't necessary.

Going into my eleventh year with the boat and the paint is starting to peel off similar to Bill Pfund's photos. I don't think the manufacturer cleaned the barrier coat surface before bottom painting.......... The paint is peeling down to the barrier coat.

Looks like I'll have to chemically strip the hull next season and start over.
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: tjspiel on May 09, 2024, 06:32 PM
Quote from: Riggerdood on May 08, 2024, 10:43 PM
Quote from: Quantico Frank on May 08, 2024, 05:31 AMJealous, guys. Still waiting on bottom painting here, ugh....
Frank, just for "fun", go on the FB group and read Bill Pfund's almost 3 year tale of woe regarding getting his boat's bottom redone. Not for the faint of heart ...

What a nightmare !
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Quantico Frank on May 09, 2024, 08:01 PM
Quote from: DBthal on May 09, 2024, 10:30 AMLooks like I'll have to chemically strip the hull next season and start over.

Argh...
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Riggerdood on May 09, 2024, 10:18 PM
Quote from: Quantico Frank on May 09, 2024, 09:09 AM
Quote from: Riggerdood on May 08, 2024, 10:43 PMFrank, just for "fun", go on the FB group and read Bill Pfund's almost 3 year tale of woe regarding getting his boat's bottom redone. Not for the faint of heart ...

Wow, what an ordeal! I'm pretty sure part of the problem I'm dealing with is also lack of/unreliable labor in my yard too. I called them yesterday, and they told me it's being power-washed and should be completed "in the next couple days."

Interesting things about Bill's post: 1) I asked my yard about a barrier coat, and they told me they don't do them because of all the decontamination requirements for using that paint right next to the Chesapeake Bay, and 2) my previous owner and I used to paint the bottom with that VC-17 paint, and the copper looks so cool when it's done; but unfortunately, since it's an ablative, all that beautiful copper washes off very quickly before it gets to your underlying color.

And what's worse is that you both live in areas where one would think there would be an abundance of skilled folks who do this kind of work.

As to the barrier coat, maybe the rules are different for fresh water? Or in MI vs VA?
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Riggerdood on May 09, 2024, 10:19 PM
Quote from: DBthal on May 09, 2024, 10:30 AMI'm working through an ordeal bottom painting my 22' Sisu powerboat.

When it was built, I had the manufacturer barrier coat & bottom paint the boat when it was still on a crib at the plant. They didn't want to barrier coat saying it wasn't necessary.

Going into my eleventh year with the boat and the paint is starting to peel off similar to Bill Pfund's photos. I don't think the manufacturer cleaned the barrier coat surface before bottom painting.......... The paint is peeling down to the barrier coat.

Looks like I'll have to chemically strip the hull next season and start over.
You and Bill can certainly co-miserate Dan!
Title: Re: Finally in and had a couple of days of sailing this weekend.
Post by: Riggerdood on May 09, 2024, 10:20 PM
Quote from: tjspiel on May 09, 2024, 06:32 PM
Quote from: Riggerdood on May 08, 2024, 10:43 PM
Quote from: Quantico Frank on May 08, 2024, 05:31 AMJealous, guys. Still waiting on bottom painting here, ugh....
Frank, just for "fun", go on the FB group and read Bill Pfund's almost 3 year tale of woe regarding getting his boat's bottom redone. Not for the faint of heart ...

What a nightmare !
Indeed!