Classglobe 5.80

[rfrance0718]

How did I just find out about these? What a great pipedream for me!

https://classglobe580.com/the-concept/

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[Doug SC]

I'm Blown Away! A Potter 19 on steroids! I am happy with my Scamp and Potter, but if I was young and taking a different life path well...maybe. Thanks for posting this as I was unaware.

[Captain Kidd]

Cool! Sounds like they have big plans for the design.

Though lots of differences, makes me think of Welsford's Sundowner.

[rfrance0718]

My crazy idea. So crazy that I've never shared it. This has inspired me.

For years I've toyed with an idea. I love having a boat on a trailer, but I don't care about ramp launching, at least not anymore. This 19 foot  design makes me think that I could turn my Oday 240 into such a boat.

First item would be to replace the keel with something deep with a bulb. With that I could replace the rudder with something deeper to match the new keel. After that, I'm thinking about replacing the plastic opening ports with metal and upgrading the forward hatch. The boat already has a stout mast and boom, but the chain plates might need some beef.

I've already added a second forestay for a smaller jib on its own furler. I would want to look at a dodger as well and probably replacing the Bimini with a rigid structure with solar panels on top.

I would want to add a wind vane as well. The boat already has a big open transom to wash pooping waves out quickly.

Finally, I need to think about positive floatation.

Why? I'd like to do a crossing. I don't know of any 24 foot boats built for such a trip, although the small Pacific Seacraft boats are a possibility.  But  right now, my boat weighs 3500, and can be towed easily, those boats are bulkier.

I would need to talk to a boat builder or a naval architect. Who knows if replacing the keel is even possible.

I love the crazyness if such an idea.

It would cost $30,000 to build one of these 5.80s,  I would think that I could upgrade the Oday for no more than that, and complete it much faster. 

All I need now is a pipe to smoke.

[Captain Kidd]

I think that guy who built the Sundowner (and totaled it right out of the gate) spent something like $80g's on it. He was going to circumnavigate I think.

[Ed]

Wow, I think Charles missed out on this.  My first thought on seeing the boat and converting meters to feet was that it was a Potter 19 on steroids with a North Sea bow (Minnow, our first and only new sailboat was a 2003 Potter 19).  I used the steroid phrase when reviewing a 28' cat ketch boat with carbon fiber masts and roached sails at the St Pete Boat Show in like 2010 and they used it in their brochure (does that make me a published author?) and for the life of me can't recall the name, but I'll sleep on it.  That one had a big cabin, huge centerboard that was a double folding table, outboard well to starboard, and a transom with a door on it.  Loved the boat, but anything over $20K gives me the willies.

[Charles Brennan]

Ed, Looked at the boat and I think it's about as far from what I currently need, as you can get! 
Mast, boom, & rigging is 80 pounds, very close to my all-up mast and boom and rigging.  My mast alone, is 60 pounds.  Pretty sure that mast is a few pounds more.
This whole exercise to acquire/build a SCAMP was because I was:
1) Tired of hoisting a 60 pound mast.
2) Tired of trying to balance on a skinny fore deck to handle head sails.
(Although I concede 2 sets of roller furling head sails might alleviate those problems, somewhat.)
3) Too arthritic to keep climbing in and out of cabins.
4) And for a skinny-water sailor, that keel/bulb was definitely a non-starter.

I sailed to Bimini once, when the boat was brand-new, and I was young and Stupid.  Not a stranger to blue-water cruising, but I gotta say: After a while, one wave looks very much like another.  I'm definitely more of the coastal gunkholer type, so that Globe 5.80 holds no interest for me.

Hope this clarifies,
(And what were you THINKING!?!?!?) 
Charles Brennan

[Frank B.]

LOL, I don't know if it is age, condition, or attitude, but I can relate to and agree with each of the points that Charles Brennan made.

The concession that the roller furling makes the foredeck work a bit less taxing is true, well most of the time, however, if you are out with three non sailors as crew and your furling drum jams just as you start to roll up the headsail as a storm approaches   the magnitude of the problem is tenfold worse than anything I've experienced with a hank on.