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Started by Captain Kidd, Oct 18, 2024, 12:05 PM

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Captain Kidd

I've been thinking seriously about selling the Hunter. I've only sailed it once each of the last two years. None this year til now. Some years I haven't sailed it at all. My wife is not interested in overnighting on it anymore. I told her I wanted to take one more "big" trip on it before I sell her. She's ready for that so she arranged to keep my daughter's kids on fall break so that Tiffany could take that "big" trip. We decided on Pensacola since I have another grandson in college there hoping we could see him while there. My goal for this trip was not necessarily a lot of miles like the Georgia coast trip 5 years ago: just good sailing and some fun.

Here's a report on our (me and my daughter) trip. If I told the whole story, it would turn into a book. Here's the "cliff's notes" version. (copied from my personal FB page with edits: here's link to see post which includes videos :https://www.facebook.com/robin.leffertskidd )

Saturday, October 5
All day, morning to midnight prep. I mean - when you have to take even the kitchen sink, it takes a while. I was pooped! I had washed the boat a couple weeks earlier, but the days leading up to departure were busy so final prep had to wait.

Sunday
Travel. Listened to a.m. church service on FB. Went to church and dinner with Luke (my grandson) at Cheddars in the evening. Overnight at the Pensacola Christian College Campus House.

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Monday
Winds were forecasted to be NE 10-20 for most of the week due to Milton, so I decided on an east to west trip. We launched from Navarre. Sailed on a reefed main alone. Was a very comfortable sail of 18 miles to Pensacola Beach. On the way my rudder developed some play in it. Was a bit concerning. We attempted to dock at Quietwater Beach to check it out. Big mistake with that easterly wind and long fetch (I let my concern for the rudder cloud my judgment re the issues at Quietwater). Quietwater wasn't so quiet; the waves pounded us into the dock. As quickly as we could we motored away from the dock and dropped anchor. All we had to do was tighten some screws/nuts. Wind and waves made it very bumpy so we decided to pull anchor* and motor around to Little Sabine Bay which was my original intent. Very protected from the wind and waves. Beautiful night. (*note: pulling the anchor under those conditions was very difficult. I was using a 25 lb bulwagga with 18' of heavy chain. It literally took all the strength I had to pull that anchor up.)

A beautiful day crossing the bridge to the Navarre ramp.

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boat rigged and ready

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Tiffany at the helm. couldn't hardly pry her away

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pic taken from condo by Tiffany's friend (the same friend she did the marathon with) whose family just happened to be staying at a condo on Little Sabine Bay. Sunset - if you look closely, you can see Anago anchored in the bay.

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night in the bay

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Tuesday
We moved closer to shore and waded onto land. We walked to the boardwalk, met up with Luke and enjoyed a wonderful seafood lunch at Crabs. When we returned to the boat, the tide had gone out a bit and she was grounded. With some effort the three of us were able to push it to deeper water. We said good-bye to Luke and headed for Sand Island just south of the NAS, an 11 mile sail. The winds were light so we put up full sail and actually motor-sailed the last hour. On the way we were visited by a dolphin (we saw numerous ones throughout the trip) that breached several times including once right beside the boat!! We could have almost reached out and touched him! Once at Sand Island we anchored by the shore* and walked around the whole island. We then moved to deeper water and anchored for the night. (*I wasn't happy with my stern-to anchor job at the shore and got pretty frustrated).

waded ashore

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lunch with grandson

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company along the way

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walk around Sand Is

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anchorage

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Wednesday
Winds were forecast to be the strongest of the trip. Forecast was right and we saw winds in the mid-teens gusting to the mid-20's.  We pulled anchor (I had removed the 18' of chain, but with the wind blowing it was still quite the chore getting up that big anchor - like the previous day it took two tries to get it up). We set out on our 7 mile sail and hoisted our headsail. Was very comfortable sailing. As we neared the western end of Big Lagoon the waters piled up and it got a little lumpy but was great fun. We entered the narrows at Perdido Key and motored into the marina, enjoyed a lovely lunch of Po-boy sandwiches at the Sunset Grill. It was early so we decided to get an Uber back to Navarre to retrieve our vehicle and trailer. On the way back to Perdido Key we drove along Santa Rosa Island and even stopped to catch the sunset with the gulf waves crashing on shore. Then we got some ice cream where we enjoyed some time visiting with Tiffany's best friend and family who just happened to be vacationing in Pensacola Beach. I slept the most soundly of the trip that night. Tied up at a dock is a little more relaxing than being anchored out (at least in my mind).

seastate

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sailing jib alone

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winds for the day

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victory lunch

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after retrieving vehicle

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Thursday
The plan was to take out at the Galvez ramp right across the water 1/4 mile from the marina. As we were winching the boat up onto the trailer, the winch post failed at the base! Ugh!! Not gonna get the boat on the trailer without that. What to do? The Lord provided! A guy at the ramp recommended a marine service which in turn recommended a trailer repair guy just a few miles from us (Hammerhead Trailer Repair if you ever need one). We took the boat back to the marina, dropped the trailer off and came home boatless.

winch post

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Return trip
Monday and Tuesday I returned alone and picked up the trailer, retrieved the boat, met Luke for lunch at Burger King across from campus and came home.

Takeaways
Had a great time! Tiffany loves the beach and water. Some hard work involved. The trip actually left me exhausted. Anchoring was difficult, tricky, and tiring. The rudder thing was a bit concerning but turned out to be quite simple. Really enjoyed time with our freshman college student, Luke. Sailing was really nice with mostly steady winds. Skies were clear and sunny, temps perfect. Trailer mishap was a shock but not too surprising really when you have old stuff.

I undertook the trip with mixed emotions. I felt strange enjoying a vacation knowing Milton was going to pound central Florida. But there wasn't much I could do about it. I have several friends in the Tampa area. Turns out they all faired pretty well all things considered.

What's next?
I'll likely put her up for sale and stick with the CIY. We'll see.

Note: I failed to insert two pics - first is the repaired post and second is daughter and I stopping on the way home at Whataburger for lunch in Flomaton. In honor of my wife who loves whataburgers. LOL
"They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters; These see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep." Psalm 107:23-24

Norm L.

Not just a good sail but coupled to great family time. Hard to beat days like that.

Doug SC

I have stayed at Big Lagoon SP and kayaked out to the National Seashore across from there. Put in at the ramp not far from the bridge over to Perdido Key. Really nice area to sail.

Enjoying family on a trip like this is special. Would your daughter be interested in owning the sailboat?


Captain Kidd

Quote from: Doug SC on Oct 18, 2024, 02:52 PMWould your daughter be interested in owning the sailboat?



Not practical for them. He hunts. Works a lot. No place to store. They do the beach thing annually but focus on fishing.
"They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters; These see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep." Psalm 107:23-24

Spot

Great trip report and pictures!
Big dreams, small boats...

Wolverine

I would find it very difficult to sell the boat after a trip like that. Even if you only go every couple of years, those memories are priceless.
1985 Compac 19/II  s/v Miss Adventure
1986 Seidelman 295 s/v Sur La Mer

Riley Smith

You have found out that Quietwater is not aptly named! LOL! We got slammed by the north wind there one night too while we were tied up to the dock.
Riley

Captain Kidd

Quote from: Wolverine on Oct 18, 2024, 03:19 PMI would find it very difficult to sell the boat after a trip like that. Even if you only go every couple of years, those memories are priceless.

I did offer a caviat before going: "it depends on how much fun we have". LOL

We had fun. My daughter would go again in a heartbeat. It was taxing on me physically. The anchoring thing got to me. My bulwagga weighs 21 lbs. The chain I took weighs 24 lbs. That along with the wind and waves was torturous! In retrospect the chain was overkill. Using the motor while weighing anchor would have helped but my daughter is totally new to outboards. My outboard with no neutral or reverse added to the complication. Which all means I was straining against wind and waves in addition to the weight of the tackle.

The winch post episode cost me over $500 (repair, marina, extra 800 mile trip). Boats do cost money and this one has been pretty good to me in that regard so can't complain too much.

My wife and I had a very good time last year. We stayed at a lodge and daysailed.

So there are possiblities. We'll see. Giving up the big boating experience will be a big event after 25 years of sailing.

One more possibility: my wife loved a Hunter 19 we looked at years ago (Doug King was selling his if you remember him). I believe she might be game for one. i believe one would be a little less work than the 18.5, and my wife hates to see me work so hard! They are scarce, but who knows????
"They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters; These see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep." Psalm 107:23-24

Krusen

Great trip report, Captain Kidd!

Much prettier crew than the Georgia coastal voyage.  A lot more fit, too.

When you said strong winds, and the Bulwaga, I knew you had a true challenge.  You thought that getting up "Right now" when I realized before daybreak that the tide was slack was not important, but breaking out and recovering that monster was still a chore that wore us both out. Without slack, we would not have had the strength or endurance.

That thing is going to hold well even without the chain.

I very much envy that you are still sailing, but not the bad kind of envy.  I sold my MacGregor September last year

You have a fine sailing little cruiser, and I was not surprised that you sailed well with jib alone, or reefed main alone.  Matching the sail area to the wind, and there is a lot of fun on a windy day.

Re Milton, sitting home and wringing your hands because friends MAY have hurricane damage is a waste of good days if you are not going to be hit.

KRUSE'N
Not even at anchor, washed up on the beach. ;)


Frank B.

Great trip! I'm proud of you and crew for sailing on Wed.  I was in Mexico Beach last week, did not take any boats, long story but similar to CB's "not quite sure it is ready, and no time" story on the regatta.  We had taken some friends down, they were in their early eighties, so I decided to book space on a large party pontoon boat that makes the trip from Port st. Joe to Cape San Blas.  "Trip to the Tip" to let you off for exploring and hiking.  Got a call the night before from the Capt. who said gale force winds and he had to cancel.  Yep, windy but not that bad, can't help but believe he was underbooked and wanted to cancel.  So we drove over to the state park and accessed most of it that way. Other than that wind event it was truly a beautiful week.

I'm thinking of selling my Compac 23, same reasons, last recreational use was this time last year for a full moon motor cruise, lot's of maintenance and docking cost since then, doesn't seem practical.  My wife has also cooled on overnighting although I hope to get her out this fall using the migrating loons and their call as bait. ;)

Captain Kidd

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Quote from: Krusen on Oct 19, 2024, 11:22 PMGreat trip report, Captain Kidd!

Much prettier crew than the Georgia coastal voyage.  A lot more fit, too.


She didn't get her looks from me! LOL And she is fit: loves athletics and running has become her passion. She has wrist deformities which inhibit her a great deal. Obviously running is not affected.

Quote from: Krusen on Oct 19, 2024, 11:22 PMWhen you said strong winds, and the Bulwaga, I knew you had a true challenge.  You thought that getting up "Right now" when I realized before daybreak that the tide was slack was not important, but breaking out and recovering that monster was still a chore that wore us both out. Without slack, we would not have had the strength or endurance.

That thing is going to hold well even without the chain.


I sure thought about our anchoring episode. You got me out of my bunk at 0600 and I jumped up on deck in my skivvies and it took a good effort to get her up.

Quote from: Krusen on Oct 19, 2024, 11:22 PMI very much envy that you are still sailing, but not the bad kind of envy.  I sold my MacGregor September last year


You were quite the marvel at 85! I'm far from it but feeling the impact of age.

Quote from: Krusen on Oct 19, 2024, 11:22 PMYou have a fine sailing little cruiser, and I was not surprised that you sailed well with jib alone, or reefed main alone.  Matching the sail area to the wind, and there is a lot of fun on a windy day.


I've enjoyed the Hunter 18.5. It has suited my sailing style just fine. Believe it or not, that is the first time I've sailed her with a reefed main or jib alone. We don't see winds like the coast much on inland lakes.

Quote from: Krusen on Oct 19, 2024, 11:22 PMRe Milton, sitting home and wringing your hands because friends MAY have hurricane damage is a waste of good days if you are not going to be hit.

 

I obviously concluded the same thing. But it was still kind of awkward.

Thanks for chiming in!

(and that GA cruise is the hallmark of my sailing career!)

"They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters; These see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep." Psalm 107:23-24

Captain Kidd

Quote from: Krusen on Oct 19, 2024, 11:22 PMYou have a fine sailing little cruiser


Norm, thought you'd be interested in this.

The boat took on a little water during the trip. I did not apply the Flex Seal tape around the keel joint. The thing that surprised me was returning after 4 days and finding no water in the boat.

I'm inclined to believe the water is coming in some other way. You have the hull/deck joint, the u-bolt at the bow, the screw holes for the rudder pintle and the thru-hull for the cockpit drain (all above the waterline except the screw holes). It's a bit of a puzzle.
"They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters; These see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep." Psalm 107:23-24

Norm L.

This has been a nice string.
Thank you for your mention of Doug King. I have lost touch with him but had met him and his wife and enjoyed his trawler engineering and his Great Circle trip. Although he participated in a few of the past rigging and sailing discussions here. Okay, heated arguments.

Frank, that "ocean cruise" you mentioned sounds great. I will look into it. the only sea time I've been getting is driving across the Causeway. Yesterday the boats were out, big ones and a youth race. And the shrimp boats now that season is open in the lake.