PSA - if you wrap tape around your turnbuckles, make sure you check it regularly

[DBthal]

Hi Charles -

Thanks for wading in and sharing your experience way over here on the Precision sub-forum. 

Dan

[tjspiel]

"How  many seconds, have I got LEFT, before it pops out, sailing?!?!?     "




The push-button ones are less worrisome than the ones that can be pulled right out. The latter I've definitely had pop out on their own (wasn't used on standing rigging).

[Riggerdood]

Tim, I have never seen nor heard of those types of pins before, but they seem an ideal solution for a couple of reasons, and I am definitely going get my hands on some of them. Thanks for pointing them out to me! It's great to know some dood who is also a rigger! 

I found that with the stresses on the standing rigging my levers will open once the pin comes out as the one did on my P15. It makes sense especially if you consider that those stresses were enough to loosen the pin in the first place. True, my mast didn't come down, but in a blow (when these things happen) and when you're single handed, it makes you worry seriously about the rest of your rig. I had a full head of hair before that one!

No prob Frank. Obviously, others disagree with their effectiveness, and that's OK, your mileage may vary as well. If you're really worried about the levers coming open, a clevis pin and cotter pin are still the best way to go. 'Fraid I can't help you with the hair thing. ;~P

[Riggerdood]

FWIW - I had the little ball bearing fall out of a quick release pin securing the anchor on my power boat. For that reason I don't use them any more.

Seems to me that the odds of that happening are probably about the same as the odds of a circlip working loose?

[Quantico Frank]

If you're really worried about the levers coming open, a clevis pin and cotter pin are still the best way to go.

Tim, that is the solution I've landed on at this point. I'm tired of these quick pins which I've truly come to believe are not fans of mine. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, well.... At least there won't be a third time. And I will be curling them all the way back. Thanks, everyone for your input!

[pgandw]

Initially expensive, but I love the "C.S. Johnson Hook and Loop Locking Wrap Pin" sold at Defender Marine.  Pin the turnbuckle, and wrap around with the Velcro.  Reusable many, many times.  Perfect for trailer sailing or frequent tuning of standing rigging.  I discovered them when an incomplete set came with my used Mariner.  When I saw it in action, I realized what a great idea it was.  I have since ordered 2 more pairs to fit the other 2 turnbuckles.  No more busted finger nails or searching for a replacement cotter pin.  Unable to post a picture.

Fred W
Stuart Mariner 19 #4133  Sweet P
Yeopim Creek, Albemarle Sound, NC

[Quantico Frank]

Initially expensive, but I love the "C.S. Johnson Hook and Loop Locking Wrap Pin" sold at Defender Marine.

I agree, they are great. I have a turnbuckle on my forestay and have used one of those for several years. With the quick release levers on my shrouds I never have to adjust that turnbuckle.

[Quantico Frank]

So this is the the solution I finally, finally ended up with. It's easier than bending into loops cotter pins (which aren't cheap-- at least not from WM). What I'm using are the 304 SS zip ties since what I'm using them for is temporary, but you can also buy 316 SS. I've also used them to lock the boat strap hooks onto the trailer. You just take them off with a pair of tin snips.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072WC1MXT?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

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[Riggerdood]

Neat solution Frank! Too bad they're not reusable.