Capsize recovery, Electric outboard options, and other Scamp stuff Videos

Started by Doug SC, Nov 20, 2024, 01:51 PM

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Doug SC

These 3 Scamp videos maybe of interest to you for multiple reasons, not least of which is winter for some of us.

There are a number of Scamp capsize videos out there this first video has a complete turtle, and 2 other capsizes in relatively rough and windy conditions with an electric Epropulsion Elite small outboard taking a dunking. It looks like a good dingy option as well as useful for a Scamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpEajuFIUOA

This second Video is a 3-day cruise around Bruny Island in open sea conditions in Tasmania.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhpa6kqhCfY

The third Video also some talk about electric outboards but is mostly how versatile this little boat is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJKFX1SmXEI

noelH

ePropulsion Elite is my backup motor to the Torqeedo Travel. Vela is 800lbs empty, LOA 15 feet, and IIRC 14.5 ft at the waterline. Slippery hull through the water. Did a little comparison test this past Spring. Same based on screen read out of watts. Torqeedo repeatedly moved Vela more than 0.5kts faster. Depth above propeller was similar.  JMHO, either the readouts were incorrect or the Torqeedo propeller just generated more efficient thrust.

I rarely motor.  Maybe once or twice a season. Maximum distance that I can remember was ~6nm. Motors are used just to get in and out of the marina.  Torqueedo is overkill for that purpose.

ePropulsion has already one factory recall for the eLite. Free fix, but real pita to ship a lithium powered outboard.  The battery module is built in and not removable.  When enquiring about replacing the battery pack when dead the ePropulsion person said not to worry. Motor is designed to maintenance free with a duty life of 7-10 years of normal use.  Then I guess you just landfill it.

I like the design and function of the eLite. It is light(IIRC, 7kg) and easy to pull off the motor mount to stow while rocking away in a small sailboat.  It looks to be another Chinese copycat. The much more powerful and expensive French built Temo 1000. Temo 1000 has a quick and easy removable battery pack allowing users to switch over to a spare battery with minimal fuss and effort. Torqeedo is a pita. First unscrew the tiller control cable and then the battery power cable. Both have way too fine threads that can easily be cross threaded even on land.  Battery on my Travel is ~10kg.
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Doug SC

Temo 1000 is $2,900, more powerful with removable battery, and 35.3 pounds. Elite is $999, less powerful, and can't remove the battery and is 14.7 pounds. I think both have a place.

noelH

Quote from: Doug SC on Nov 21, 2024, 12:14 PMTemo 1000 is $2,900, more powerful with removable battery, and 35.3 pounds. Elite is $999, less powerful, and can't remove the battery and is 14.7 pounds. I think both have a place.

The ePropulsion eLite fits my needs for motoring. Just getting in and out of the marina.  If I was a cruiser Temo 1000 with an additional battery pack would be my choice.  But I'm a sail only snoob.  Even if the wind drops so low that Vela is struggling to hold 2kts sog, I sail back to the marina while all the big boats fire up their diesels.

Curious what the propeller rpms are at a given watt level. eLite is smaller in diameter and might have less pitch.  Might be running at a higher RPM or just inferior tip profile design resulting in more tip turbulence and less thrust/watt. . Guess is the eLite is running at similar low rpms/watt as the Torqueedo and just has an inferior propeller design.
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